Does the Earl of Grantham use Grecian 2000 or something? Why is the Dowager still alive and sharp witted (after a period of 15 yrs) and the girls/boys still have the face of youth around them/
I notice this at every episode, and btw, I was a big fan of the old period drama Upstairs, Downstairs too, but in that show, it was only the Upstairs that aged slightly. Interesting
Wars are waged by the old and fought by the young. There certainly was not a minimum age of 30. Bates is certainly a contemporary of Molesley who we know is 51 in 1924, and likely a couple years older. So 55 would be a good guestimate, but it is still a guess. He could still be anywhere between early and late fifties, thus I do not see that the more precise age on his page can be substaniated.
Yeah, I've got to agree. There really isn't any basis for a precise age for Bates that I can see.
Well, he's in his 50's certainly; there's the Boer War, being a footman in Stafford and his general look.
You could well be right, but that doesn't give us a date of birth.
Very true; I'd assume he's around Robert's age myself.
Except Robert's age isn't that precise either. Born in 1866 is pretty much the youngest he could be. That means he graduated from Eton in 1884, and Oxford in 1888. Met Cora almost immediately after graduation at her presentation, married two years later, and Mary came along a year after that.
When did he have time to get military training to serve as an officer in the Boer war? While in College? While he and Cora were courting? Between the births of Edith and Sybil? Granted the nobility were presumed to be natural leaders, however they still needed some military training before being sent into war. It would seem unlikely to pluck an Earl in his mid 30s, with three children and no prior military training for service in South Africa.
Speaking of problems with Robert's page, it also says Rosamund is a year younger. I am not aware of any evidence to support that statement either. In fact, based on personality and couple of other hints dropped along the way, I suspect Rosamund is actually the elder sibling.
Rosamund is born between 1860 and 1874, no other possible dates.
As for Robert - well, Royalty get training pushed through in emergencies (and Sybil got her Nurses training pushed through; they say "six weeks" for her training... yet nurses training takes years) so it's possible Robert only had a few weeks training.
There's also the fact that Robert could have left Eton at 16 and Oxford at 20. Or, due to lack of money, been forced to drop out early. There's nothing saying he did the entirety of the schooling at the schools he attended.
"Rosamund is born between 1860 and 1874, no other possible dates."
Exactly, so Rosamund could be older or younger, however Robert's page is very specific in saying that she is a year younger. I am simply saying that there is no substantiation for that level of specificity. Even if Robert were born as early as 1864, there was plenty of time between then and Violet's marriage in 1860 for Rosamund to have preceded him.
As for military training, (Robert was a noble not a royal) look at Prince William. He went to college, then to Sandhurst. Even in the 1880s, Robert pretty much needed to complete at Eton to go on to Oxford. He may have dropped out, but there is no indication that he did anything unusual, thus likely matriculated in the normal sequence.
Given that he served in the Boer war, one would think that he might have received training and served in the military for a couple years after leaving Oxford.
I know why! They are all secretly asian with lots of very good makeup and prosthetics. Has anyone seen Ming Na Wen?
What do you think?