What are the writers doing with the Andrew/Thomas sub-plot (if we can even call it that?) Thomas seems 'keen' and Andy seems to be trying to keep his distance (I imagine the other staff have told him to steer clear of Thomas). But surely this isn't going to be just another case of Thomas falling in love with a heterosexual man? It's been done before with Jimmy. I can't see this storyline going anywhere unless Andy is also gay/bisexual.
I just want Thomas to be happy
I wish they had developped his character more than "I don't know to read". And I would have like Dandy if they had developped it last season... Now, the romance only in the CS would be rushed :/
I really hope that the Christmas Special will reveal any romantic attraction between Thomas and Andy. They could've done so much more with his character. To Mr Fellowes: please read the spin-off histories of Thomas & Andy on Archive of our own. There you'll find enough material for a new script.
Everyone got that idea because we've seen a trailer on the Season 6 Christmas Special in which there are a few scenes that suggest it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XwiijO1PKw
At 0.54: Andy is working on Mr. Mason's farm, Daisy has obviously come to visit. Andy says to Mr. Mason (I think, a little disappointed): "Daisy is here to see you, not me" and she looks a little sheepish/ knowing that he may want her to come to see him.
Patmore then says, "He's nice, you could do worse," and Daisy says she could do better, but is then shown cutting her hair.
It may not be set is stone but it's clear that Andy, at least, likes Daisy. I also think he's very sweet and attentive to Daisy and Mrs. Patmore, and more than he is with the other servants like Carson, Hughes or Baxter (who he would probably suck up to) - He's always offering to carry things for them and go over to Mr. Mason's farm, like he wants to subtly gain favour with everyone who Daisy considers her family. There are others but they are quite subtle.
I posted that sentence long before season 6 Christmas special, when the "farm thing" was still to be seen on screen...
I do hope that Daisy and Andy don't get together, simply because I don't think 'you could do worse' is a real reason for people to get together. I hope we see more of him and Thomas being friends, or just Thomas being friends with anyone. Thomas being happy does seem more likely from the trailers. Bates and Thomas shaking hands made me happy.
Yeh, I didn't look at the date but I was just answering where I thougt it was heading.
I don't want Andy and Daisy to be together but that's because I think they are so wrong for each other. Daisy is politicial and reads the news, she's getting an education and I see herself looking for someone to talk about that with - certainly someone who can deal with her being strident.
Andy, sweet as he is, doesn't seem like he cares much about the political situation and I think he's too mellow to handle hot-headed Daisy. He seems to like pig-farming and I've never heard him show interest in book-learning in the same way that Moseley and Daisy seem to, I'm sure it would have driven him to find help with reading earlier if he had wanted to find out about that stuff. They just seem different and I don't believe two people should be together because they're kind of the same age.
I personally thought Daisy and Alfred were cute, but alas, he was just not that into her...
I totally agree with you. I mean, Daisy is building up her own future getting an education and becoming ready for the "new world" why tapping her wings forcing her with the only single man between the Abby's walls when she can meet someone else out there. A student, a teacher, an ice cream man even! Or maybe none. Why searching for romantic development everywhere? I find a bit ridiculous this thing to create relationships pairing the characters like pieces of paper from an hat (as in downton abbey as in several other TV shows!)just because are the only singles at the table. And by this, again, I'm not against the relationship between them because I want Andy to end up with Thomas but as the previous users pointed out, Andy had more screen time with Thomas rather than Daisy. It's all a bit rush and is also unfair because we have seen Mary's relationships over and over again, but the other characters are always on the background, developing off-screen. Yes, her crush towards Alfred was so cute! When she was jealous of Ivy!
Also Alfred was like Daisy in that he had a vision of life beyond Downton. He thought of bettering himself and building a brighter future with professional chef training and I think that's a similar mindset to Daisy.
I think it would have been nice to have Thomas be with someone in the end, but I also wouldn't be able to get away from the inevitable fear: gay men were treated so awfully as it was any gay relationship would just be so dangerous. I mean look at what they did to Alan Turing, he was a man of a higher class, well educated, serving his country, and he was still persecuted and chemically castrated over a decade after the time Downton Abbey was set in. I know it's a drama, but it may go too far in pretending everything is rosy if Thomas could have a happy relationship. England at that time was rife with inequality and prejudice a working class, gay man who worked as a servant would not get his chance.
I would like Thomas to be happy but I think it'll suffice to know he had a good set of friends in Andy, Baxter and maybe Anna. He's never had a friend who isn't a scheming partner (O'Brien) and doesn't want something out of him (Jimmy) all the time, so I think that's enough for me!
As for Andy, I have no problem with him chasing his dream. In fact there's something sweet about someone from a big city thinking that country life is more his style. I just don't think there's any point forcing him upon Daisy. He has had more scenes with Thomas, but I personally think there's too much a of mentoring relationship between them to be romantic.
What do you think?