<div class="quote">86.159.246.193 wrote:
Aren't they showing the episode where Edith and Bertie kiss tonight in America? And the Red Dinner? I'm looking forward to seeing the audience's reaction to both, especially the Red Dinner. That was hilarious. <p>On another note, I loved the two sister' reactions to their dates in this episode. Edith was "Oh! We're going to a swanky dance club? Yippee!" and Mary was like "He wants me to look at him... look at cars...?" </p> </div> <p>The Red Dinner. Love it </p>

<p>What was hilarious about the "red dinner"? That was a chocking and gruesome moment to Me. </p><p>Sitter way, here is yet another vote for Edith and Bertie. </p>

<p>I think people find it funny because is was shocking and gruesome, and just not what people expect from Downton Abbey. However, in this instanceI think the humor comes from the Game of Thrones reference. </p>

<div class="quote">81.232.21.126 wrote:
What was hilarious about the "red dinner"? That was a chocking and gruesome moment to Me. <p>Sitter way, here is yet another vote for Edith and Bertie. </p> </div> <p>The point is how it was really over-the-top. Like the dead Turk, it was a tragedy, but... XDDDD Black comedy category winner? </p>

<p>I like both couples, although I think Fellowes made more mistakes with the Mary and Henry relationship (many noted above already). With Bertie and Edith, the biggest issue was the over-drawn-out way they extended the "will Edith tell him about Marigold?" plotline and there were so many opportunities for her to do so even before his cousin's death. But I get that that was just a build-up for when Mary exposed it at breakfast. </p><p>As far as chemistry between the Mary and Henry goes, or Henry being wooden, they were supposed to "match" and both be cool collected types, only showing their fiery sides to few. Other weaknesses: Your best friend has just died in the same way that your love's first husband did, and you think that is the time to propose to her-- over the phone? Or, just as bad, your love interest just had his best friend die, so that makes it a good time to break up with him--over the phone? Really? </p><p>Michelle Dockery and Matthew Goode did admirably given some of the atrocious dialogue they were handed, except it seemed even they knew they couldn't pull off the horribly written library reconciliation scene. I have enjoyed reading fan works on other sites with alternative resolutions (which I would have never even gone to if I hadn't been so dissatisfied). </p>

<div class="quote"> <p>188.223.63.236 wrote: I think people find it funny because is was shocking and gruesome, and just not what people expect from Downton Abbey. However, in this instanceI think the humor comes from the Game of Thrones reference. </p> </div> <p>Okay... I guess I get it a Little bit better now. </p>

<div class="quote"> As far as chemistry between the Mary and Henry goes, or Henry being wooden, they were supposed to "match" and both be cool collected types, only showing their fiery sides to few. </div> <p>Exactly. He might be wooden, but that is also why he's a match for ice queen Mary. </p>

eh I think they are both happy in there own ways. Mary find someone to boss around and be sarcastic daredevil with and edith and bertie found someone that knew all their secrets and still loved them anyway.

<p>I think one problem is that Mary and Henry never had a "couch scene". Bertie and Edith had two. The first in the editor's office, after the long night or work, sitting together on that battered leather thing, completely relaxed with each other. For the first time Edith is with a man and doesn't seem nervous or with a sense of inferiority--he's not commanding her. And if you find a still, there's that business of their feet pointing at each's but not quite touching. JF said about Gregson that he let Edith be herself; that scene is that in spades. </p><p>And of course, the second couch scene, after the fatal race. In a quiet way, the sexiest scene in the series. </p><p>Mary and Henry never had anything like that; all their scenes have one kind of an edge or another. </p>

<p>To me, what it fails is all the characters around saying "they love each other" constantly. it felt forced. "Show, don't tell" is like the first rule to write something </p>