OMG! That's crazy if true! They certainly didn't set it up well in the first movie then! I mean, yes, she'd be well over 100 at that point so would they have her death be part of the 2nd movie that prompts the ushering in of Mary's reign as proxy Dowager? I love the suspense, drama, and conjecture!
@BeaSales that's awesome! Thank you for the video!
Ok. I say probably Robert, after his father, is a fair assessment.
Are we talking about the baby that Cora miscarried after her fall?
Thea, whenever this happens I turn on closed captioning and rewind the scene to replay it so I can see the words on screen, but yes, the York and Ainsty would have been the hunt club and a point-to-point is like an obstacle course horse race.
Great question. My guess is for the 10 year overlap between 1890-1900, the Earl was too old or ill to carry out his duties so Robert took over the position? Is that possible in English peerage?
Isobel and Lord Merton are the perfect couple! They're both amazing people and characters!
SPOILER ALERT: The writers know how to tug at our hearts...the actors know how to rip them out! I was so mad when Dan Stevens (aka Matthew) left the show. Same goes for Jessica Brown-Findlay (aka Sybil). This show was the best thing to happen to their careers and they could have at least seen it through to the end and given us all better closure! It's not like they were at the end of their careers and needing to enjoy what time they had left! Even Maggie Smith stayed on through the first movie, and bravo for her for doing so! I believe when you commit to a show, you commit to your fans! When a show becomes a smash sensation in as many ways as Downton, you owe it to yourself and the public to carry that on until the stage lights go dark!
I just love Bertie Pelham! He's adorable, kind, takes charge when necessary, and he obviously loves Edith. They did an amazing job casting this actor and writing for Bertie's character!
That's a good question! I don't remember that happening but it's certainly plausible. Thing is, their editing and creation departments are so on top of every little detail that I'm sure it would have gotten caught before airing, not to mention the whole cast and crew realizing it in the moment. Then again, there was that one time with a Starbucks cup in a promo shot or video, so, human error cannot be contained 100% of the time. I'll be interested to know what you confirm, if anything, down the road!
I don't think there's any explanation per se, they just proceeded as if it wasn't an issue or had resolved. Sometimes movie makers gloss over these details assuming the audience will come to their own conclusion. I figured, since his return to Downton was only temporary, it wouldn't be an issue short term. Long term would have probably been a no-go and if that had happened, I'm sure they would have mentioned or addressed the palsy he had suffered from at the end of the series. Good question!
Geez, I voted yes but now want to change my answer. The Dowager Countess Violet "Granny" was Dowager Countess because of her husband. So it would seem that eventually Cora would be the next in line and Mary is sadly out of the running since Matthew died and took with him the ability to be the next Earl of Grantham, which is what Mary would have needed to eventually be Dowager Countess. If Mary's son George is to be the next Earl, then his wife would be the next Dowager Countess far into the future.
Rewatch the scene but turn on closed captions. You'll see it in the text. I've done that a lot throughout the show for words that are either unknown to me due to their British heritage or for words that are said too fast or under the breath.
Versa, Fandyllic was less than kind in their response to me above, hence my reply. As for the quote, I was not going to say it was "ver batim" because although it was accurate it was not word for word, but it got my point across. Mary tells Robert and Cora that their niece was a flapper, but she's not a niece, and I found that puzzling. That's all. I'm not being lazy and not expecting others to do any work for me so I resent that comment. If someone pushes back when I've given adequate context to my question then yes, I'm going to refer them to research it themselves if they don't like or trust what I've said. I posted my original comment after having just watched the episode it was in so I'm aware of what was said.
Kate, I've never heard of that. Are you from England? Did you say "auntie and uncle" when speaking to them or did you more formally say "Aunt Sarah/Uncle Paul" for example? If the latter, I wonder why add an extra word like aunt or uncle when in the case of a cousin you would just call them Sarah or Paul in this example. Maybe it was determined by how much older they were, back in the day, as a sign of respect?
Oh yes, that's right. I remember Tom in a robe in that scene. Edith's room wasn't the only thing on fire. 🥰
Was it a dressing robe or the kind of robe you wear with bed clothes?
I was merely looking for clarification on an inconsistency in the series. There's no need to villainize me or my question, or offend me by making snide remarks about my intentions or intelligence. I don't need to provide any additional quotes other than the one already provided. Watch the series again if you need confirmation. If calling your cousin your niece is commonplace practice in England, just say so. Last I checked it's not commonplace for these two relations to be easily confused; and there's no familial or societal need in this situation to call her anything other than what she is.
One of them is Lady Mary telling Robert and Cora (in reference to Rose) "your niece is a flapper" or something like that. Doesn't matter either way because Robert only has one sister, Rosamund, with no children, and Cora has one brother, also with no children, so neither Robert nor Cora have nieces or nephews.
She is not. She is their 1st cousin once removed, her mother is Robert's cousin, not his sister.